John Fio (Gravity Blanket, Moon Pals) joins Brent Beshore & David Cover to talk about what it was like to work with Justin Bieber, the importance of finding truth in what you create, why worldbuilding is more important storytelling, and why so many products won’t stand the test of time.

LINKS & MENTIONS FROM THIS EPISODE

Gravity Blanket https://gravityblankets.com/

Moon Pals https://www.moonpals.com/

Birthdate Co https://birthdate.co/

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CONNECT

John on twitter https://twitter.com/johnhfio

John on LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/john-fiorentino-a1b26439/

Brent on twitter https:/https://twitter.com/BrentBeshore

Brent on LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/brentbeshore

David on twitter https://twitter.com/DavidACover

David on LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/david-cover-318752230/

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TIMESTAMPS

0:00 Intro & Who Is John Fio?

4:38 Maybe the World DOES Need One More Podcast

5:44 John the Artist vs John the Warlord

8:22 Working for Justin Bieber & Almost Dying

10:27 Being Homeless for Over a Year

12:35 Inventing Gravity Blanket After Spending the Night on the Subway

20:00 Worldbuilding > Storytelling

24:20 Fearlessly Pursuing Your Customer

29:29 Sign Up for the Unqualified Opinions Newsletter

30:57 Red Bull Built a Real World

37:07 Is Uber a Real Company?

41:43 A Plague of Cynicism

49:02 You Are More Than Yourself

1:04:21 Finding the Truth Is Profitable

1:07:13 Is Moon Pals the Next Disney?

1:13:30 Creating From Truth

1:16:10 Building Fio Creations: Finding Artists & Warlords

1:23:09 Send This Podcast to Someone

EPISODE CREDITS

Produced by David Cover

Intro music by David Cover, Andy Freeman, Rhett Johnson, & Andrew Luley

Interlude music by Sam Barsh

Outro music by Jees Guy

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