Brené with Anand Giridharadas on The Persuaders, Part 2 of 2
Oct 26, 2022
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Anand Giridharadas discusses the power of persuasion in democracy, sharing inspiring stories and the importance of meeting people where they are. They explore advocacy, combatting contempt, inclusivity in activism, and creating accessible entry points for diverse participation. The conversation also touches on vulnerability, personal connections, and the emotional depth of impactful music.
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Quick takeaways
Advocacy can be a powerful tool to address political threats and advocate for social change.
Inclusive movements and accessible language are key for engaging a broader audience in social progress.
Effective persuasion can challenge beliefs, foster reflection, and promote positive societal change.
Deep dives
The power of persuasion and advocacy
The podcast discusses how shifting from journalism to advocacy allowed the speaker to speak candidly about political threats and issues, motivating them to advocate for important social changes and share blunt truths, especially amidst political unrest and normalization of political violence and fascism.
Importance of effective communication and narrative
The episode delves into the significance of effective communication by highlighting the story of Linda Sarsour, who emphasized the need for inclusive movements and the importance of accessible language to engage a broader audience for social change and collective progress.
Displacing ideas through persuasion
The podcast explores the concept of displacing ideas instead of replacing them, focusing on the art of persuasion to provoke cognitive dissonance, challenge beliefs, and encourage reflection, emphasizing the power of persuasion over manipulation for fostering positive societal change.
Challenging despair and embracing hope
The discussion revolves around shifting from despair to hope by acknowledging the complexity of societal challenges, embracing a grounded sense of possibility and agency, and recognizing the nobility in striving for a more inclusive and democratic society through effective persuasion and advocacy.
Personal growth through family and connection
The podcast reflects on gratitude for family moments, particularly the speaker's joy in cooking shared with loved ones, highlighting the transformative power of family interactions, shared experiences, and the evolving dynamics of raising children into independent and thoughtful individuals.
It’s Part 2 of our two-part series with Anand Giridharadas, author of The Persuaders: At the Front Lines of the Fight for Hearts, Minds, and Democracy. I’m still thinking about Anand’s story and how his experiences informed this concept of persuasion as being the heart of democracy. In this episode, we talk more specifically about the real stories included in the book — some scary, some incredibly inspiring — and he shares more about the individuals behind this meaningful work, which is built on meeting people where they are.