Writer, director, producer and stand-up comedian Judd Apatow invites us into his L.A. office for an in-depth conversation about all things comedy. We talk about his new Garry Shandling book and working on his upcoming film with Pete Davidson. Judd also weighs in on the so-called “civil war” in comedy, from fired SNL comic Shane Gillis—who called him “gayer than ISIS” in one of his controversial rants—to Louis C.K., who he thinks still deserves “criticism” for making fun of the Parkland shooting survivors. Plus, Judd looks back on some of his biggest movie hits and reveals the funniest person he’s ever worked with.

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Judd Apatow Takes on Comedy’s ‘Civil War’