This podcast series explores a game-changing understanding of the human mind 'before psychology' that can exponentially increase the performance, resourcefulness and well-being for any individual or organisation.

This episode is a conversation with fellow coach and teacher Joel Drazner.

The discussion covers:

The innocent mistake we make when seeking stability in an unstable world
How that turns up in our search for Psychological Safety
What is it that we can rely on? What is the source of happiness and contentment
How come it is so easy to misunderstand that, our seeking.
What am I really?
Is this just a tautology?
A little experiment - a practical way to start to see what is really going.....

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Our Innocent Mistake with Psychological Safety - Seeking Stability in an Unstable World - A conversation with Joel Drazner