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Spy Wars Over Ukraine
Feb 3, 2022
Former CIA operative John Sipher discusses US options for dealing with a potential invasion of Ukraine, while former top DHS intelligence official Brian Murphy deconstructs the Kremlin's disinformation campaign. Topics include Russian behavior, intelligence recruitment, cyber threats, manufactured tensions, Russian disinformation tactics, press responsibility, and changing strategies in disinformation campaigns.
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Quick takeaways
- Deterring Putin requires credible threats and not accommodating his aggressive actions.
- Combining various sources, including open-source reporting, is essential to paint a comprehensive picture of Russian activities.
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Russian Invasion Threat and Patterns of Behavior
The podcast episode discusses the ongoing threat of a possible Russian invasion in Ukraine. The host interviews John Seifer, a former senior CIA operations officer, about Russia's patterns of behavior and the need to deter Vladimir Putin. Seifer explains that Putin often creates crises to gain concessions or attention from the West, and previous attempts to accommodate him have been unsuccessful. Seifer advises that deterring Putin requires credible threats and emphasizes the importance of not accommodating his aggressive actions.
