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Spy Wars Over Ukraine

Feb 3, 2022

Former CIA operative John Sipher discusses US options for dealing with a potential invasion of Ukraine, while former top DHS intelligence official Brian Murphy deconstructs the Kremlin's disinformation campaign. Topics include Russian behavior, intelligence recruitment, cyber threats, manufactured tensions, Russian disinformation tactics, press responsibility, and changing strategies in disinformation campaigns.

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John Sipher

Brian Murphy

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Quick takeaways

Deterring Putin requires credible threats and not accommodating his aggressive actions.

Combining various sources, including open-source reporting, is essential to paint a comprehensive picture of Russian activities.

Deep dives

Russian Invasion Threat and Patterns of Behavior

The podcast episode discusses the ongoing threat of a possible Russian invasion in Ukraine. The host interviews John Seifer, a former senior CIA operations officer, about Russia's patterns of behavior and the need to deter Vladimir Putin. Seifer explains that Putin often creates crises to gain concessions or attention from the West, and previous attempts to accommodate him have been unsuccessful. Seifer advises that deterring Putin requires credible threats and emphasizes the importance of not accommodating his aggressive actions.

Introduction

2min

The CIA's Role in Dealing with Putin's Russia

12min

International Relations and Potential Consequences of Punishing China

8min

Exploring Cyber Warfare Tactics and the Need for Action

2min

The Manufactured Crisis and Tensions in Ukraine

2min

Russia's Disinformation Tactics in Ukraine

7min

Russian Playbook and Press Responsibility

2min

Shift in Tactics: Gray News Channels and Social Media Platforms

8min

John Sipher, who once ran CIA operations against the Russians, talks about US options for dealing with an invasion of Ukraine, while Brian Murphy, a former top DHS intelligence official, deconstructs the Kremlin's disinformation campaign against us. With cohosts Jeff Stein and Jeanne Meserve.

John Sipher

https://twitter.com/john_sipher

https://twitter.com/AtlanticCouncil

Brian Murphy

https://twitter.com/NatSecBrian

https://twitter.com/LogicallyAI

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