The Big Five Podcast

“Who cares?” - Mark Carney is in no rush to talk to Donald Trump. Plus: The implosion of Quebec’s political parties continues.

Nov 24, 2025
In this discussion, political operative Jimmy Zubris and punk rock musician Paul Gott dive deep into the chaotic landscape of Quebec politics. They explore Mark Carney's nonchalant stance towards trade talks with Trump, with Zubris warning it might tarnish Carney's image. Gott critiques a recent tweet from JD Vance targeting Canada's immigration policies, labeling it as politically motivated. They also analyze the fracturing within political parties in Quebec, reflecting on the potential fallout from internal conflicts and past scandals.
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INSIGHT

Carney Frames Talks As Results-Driven

  • Mark Carney openly signalled he's in no rush to engage Trump and framed talks as 'when it matters.'
  • That stance reframes diplomacy as results-driven rather than constant contact.
ADVICE

Answer Calls From Your Biggest Partner

  • If a foreign leader calls, answer the phone quickly, Jimmy Zubris argues, because it's your largest partner.
  • Treat U.S. engagement as strategically urgent rather than dismissible rhetoric.
INSIGHT

Vance's Tweet Aimed At Canadian Audience

  • U.S. Vice-President J.D. Vance used immigration rhetoric to criticize Canada's economy and leadership on social media.
  • Panelists view that message as politically motivated and aimed at Canadians, not Americans.
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