In this episode, Troy Lightfoot sits down with Complex Product Development Specialist Dave Rush. They discuss scaling beyond software using techniques like model-based systems engineering and some popular scaling approaches that need reconsideration in these contexts.    Resources Mentioned:     (Feel Free To Connect!)      About the Agile Uprising  :   If you enjoyed this episode, please give us a review a rating, or leave comments on iTunes, Stitcher or your podcasting platform of choice. It helps others find us.   Many thanks to the artist Krebs from Machine Man Records who provided us our outro music free of charge!   If you like what you heard, check out these links to find more music you might enjoy! If you’d like to join the discussion and share your stories,  please jump into the fray at our Discord Server! We at the Agile Uprising are committed to being free.  However, we have a Patreon if you’d like to contribute and help us defray hosting and production costs.  Who knows, you might even get some surprises in the mail!