595. Gen Z Debate Champion Vs Me: The Truth About Tommy Robinson, Charlie Kirk & the "Far-Right" - Tilly Middlehurst

Dec 4, 2025

In this thought-provoking discussion, Tilly Middlehurst, a Cambridge politics student and skilled debater, dives deep into the complexities of nationalism, gender identity, and political violence. She shares her intense experience confronting Charlie Kirk and the backlash she received for her views. Tilly challenges the notion of acceptable political violence and critiques the branding of figures like Tommy Robinson. They explore the evolution of societal norms and the importance of cultural assimilation in fostering national cohesion.

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ANECDOTE

Debating Charlie Kirk In Person

Tilly recounts debating Charlie Kirk at the Cambridge Union when she was 19 and facing a tense 10-minute back-and-forth.
She says meeting someone in person made it easier to deconstruct their worldview than watching online clips.

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Debate By Grounding Ideas And Building Agreement

Tilly advises debaters to focus on material reality and how ideas manifest in the real world.
She recommends finding agreement on most points first, then exposing disagreement in the final conclusion.

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Blamed For A Political Killing

Tilly describes watching the video of Charlie Kirk's killing and receiving death threats blaming her rhetoric.
She says the event was personally traumatic and provoked fears about clampdowns on free speech.

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In this explosive episode, Andrew sits down with the brilliant Tilly Middlehurst, the Cambridge student bizarrely blamed online for Charlie Kirk’s death after publicly criticising his rhetoric. What follows is one of the most intense, wide-ranging culture-war conversations we’ve ever had on the channel.

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Tilly breaks down the online witch-hunt she faced, the accusations from both Right and Left, and the bizarre moment when progressives turned on her simply for saying that celebrating someone’s death is wrong. We dive into why certain violent sentiments seem “acceptable” in progressive circles, the growing trend of Left-wing intolerance, and the moral hypocrisy surrounding political violence.

We also go deep into the debates that made Tilly infamous:

• Tommy Robinson – is he really “Right-wing,” and why does that label get thrown around without explanation?

• Nationalism – why nationalism has historically been associated with the Left, and the difference between civic nationalism and Christian nationalism.

• Culture vs Religion – from patriarchy in Islamic countries to whether oppression is cultural, legal, or both.

• Gender, feminism, and whether patriarchy is “natural” – including controversial ideas many are now too scared to say out loud.

• Race, IQ, immigration, and why older people move to the Right – uncomfortable questions most mainstream platforms refuse to touch.

• Why some Jewish Brits feel unsafe, rising antisemitism, and why mass immigration makes these conversations unavoidable.

Tilly also opens up about the backlash from her own side, the pressure to conform to progressive groupthink at university, and why she believes many young people will eventually shift Right as they grow up.

If you’re tired of the scripted culture-war soundbites and want a raw, unfiltered confrontation of ideas—from religion to race, nationalism to gender, and the political hypocrisy no one else will acknowledge—this is an episode you won’t want to miss.

🔥 Topics: free speech, political violence, Left-wing extremism, Tommy Robinson debate, nationalism, Islam & culture, feminism vs biology, race & immigration, antisemitism, eugenics discourse, why nations fail, mass immigration politics, media bias (BBC vs GB News), the Groypers, Quran vs Bible, asylum system failures, Sudan double standards, and more.

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