Natalie Cassidy and Joanna Page chat about all things on and off the telly.

Nat and Jo are beyond excited for The Traitors finale this week so had to dedicate a whole episode to all things Traitors. They’re joined by a truly villainous traitor from Series 2, Paul Gorton, who talks tactics for the final, who he would have chosen to recruit this series and how he got into the zone (army style) for when he was in the castle. Plus they give 100% faithful Tyler from this series a call to find out what it’s like being a faithful and how on earth Linda stayed in for so long.

What they can’t stop watching, what they definitely aren’t going to bother with, new releases and comforting classics – TV is timeless and no telly is out of bounds. As well as having a natter about what’s on TV, they share backstage goss from the world of telly, whilst also cracking up about the more humbling moments in their lives. Self-confessed TV addicts and stars of two of the biggest shows on our screens, EastEnders and Gavin and Stacey, Natalie and Joanna are the perfect companions to see what’s occurring on and off the telly. Get in touch by sending us a message or voice note via WhatsApp to 03306 784704.

Hosts: Natalie Cassidy and Joanna Page Producer: Georgia Keating Executive Producer: James Robinson Commissioning Editor: Rhian Roberts Production Co-ordinator: Becky Carewe-Jeffries Sounds Editor: Arlie Adlington Music by MCasso

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