In this episode, the hosts reflect on their summers and discuss responsible leadership. They share intimate experiences with the seasons and talk about surprising behavior of mute swans. They also discuss their dream of creating an online journal and the challenges of recording an audiobook. The concept of confession and childhood biases are explored, along with lessons learned from a last-minute holiday and reflections on the environmental impact of flying.
Assessing responsible leadership using the seasonal map exercise can guide leadership practice effectively.
Embracing a humble relationship with the natural world and observing its cycles can provide grounding and valuable lessons.
Deep dives
Reflecting on the Seasons of Responsibility
The podcast episode starts with the hosts discussing the significance of the changing seasons and how they relate to responsible leadership. They mention an exercise called the seasonal map, which helps individuals assess their responsible leadership practice. The exercise involves considering what is emerging in spring, what is blooming in summer, what needs to be relinquished in autumn, and what can be communicated clearly in winter. The hosts find the seasonality of this exercise to be revealing and effective in guiding their leadership practice.
Finding Humility in Nature
The hosts share their experiences of spending time in nature over the summer and how it has been humbling and grounding for them. They discuss the intimacy and connection they feel with the natural world, particularly through their interactions with the environment and wildlife. They reflect on the lessons they've learned from observing the cycles of nature and the importance of embracing a more proximal and humble relationship with the natural world.
Confessions and Honesty
The hosts delve into the concept of confessions and honesty as a means of personal growth and collective understanding. They discuss the power of confessing personal truths and the relief it can bring. They also explore the gap between societal techno-optimism and the underlying unease some people feel about rapid technological advancements, such as 5G and artificial intelligence. They suggest the need for a richer, more collective cultural confession to bridge this honesty gap.
The Importance of Relationships and Interdependence
The hosts emphasize the significance of relationships and interconnectedness in shaping our lives and the world. They highlight the wisdom in recognizing that individuals are not inherently special or isolated, but rather embedded within a complex web of social and ecological connections. They propose the need to move away from an individualistic mindset and embrace a more humble understanding of our place within these networks of relations.
The Great Humbling is back for a fourth series of conversations between Dougald Hine and Ed Gillespie, now as part of the wider patchwork of Homeward Bound.
Our theme for this first episode is confessions, but we start by looking back over the summer that's gone. Ed offers us Carol Campayne's seasonal map of responsible leadership with questions that follow the turning of the year:
Spring: What's emerging? What are the new green shoots?
Summer: What's blooming? What's in floral technicolor?
Autumn: What do I need to give up, relinquish, let fall away?
Winter: What can I see clearly now the leaves have dropped?
Dougald talks about the experience of voicing the audiobook of Hospicing Modernity by Vanessa Machado de Oliveira (who regular listeners may know as Vanessa Andreotti).
Ed introduces Nova Reid's book, The Good Ally, and the uncomfortable memories of his own childhood that it brought back.
Confessions often involve the revelation of personal facts that we would rather keep hidden.
Dougald talks about unexpectedly finding himself in a European airport this summer and the pervasive advertising for a future of fossil-free flying and ubiquitous 5G drone-facilitated 'easy'-ness.
Ed's been listening to Tyson Yunkaporta yarning with Adah Parris about 'Cyborg Shamanism'.