Today's episode features a discussion from 2023 with reknowned independent analyst Benedict Evans (formerly a16z and Mosaic Ventures) about his predictions and frameworks for AI, VR/AR, Crypto and blockchain, the cloud, automation, and more. AI scout and podcast host Nathan Labenz (The Cognitive Revolution's host) joined for the last 20 minutes to deepen the discussion on AI. Crush your 2024 goals and learn a new language with Babbel - get 60% off at Babbel.com/torenburg

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LINKS:

Benedict's website (featuring his 2024 presentation): https://www.ben-evans.com/

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TIMESTAMPS:

(00:00) Intro and Preview

(00:26) Predicting Tech Trends

(02:20) Esco Model

(03:42) Deployment of Older Ideas

(05:39) Netflix: A TV Company, Not a Tech Company

(07:06) Software's Impact on Different Industries

(11:43) Regulation and Technology in Healthcare, Education, and Housing

(13:51) Direct-to-Consumer

(15:16) Overestimating and Underestimating Change

(16:15) Blockchain and VR: Still Early Days

(17:54) Sponsor: Babbel | Squad

(20:55) "Killer App" Fallacy

(23:37) Web 3.0 and Crypto: Overhyped and Underappreciated

(28:07] Decentralization and the "Can't Be Evil" Thesis

(30:05) The Limits of Decentralization

(42:54) Defining the Metaverse

(47:30) The Impossibility of True Portability

(49:25) Consumer Surplus and Business Models

(1:00:43) AI: Unbundling Jobs and Bundling Apps

(1:05:15) Vin's Paradox and the Automation Cycle

(1:09:40) The Speed of Technological Change

(1:13:15) Deploying New Technologies Takes Time

(1:14:56) Questions for the Future