Eric Ries joins the podcast today for a deep-dive conversation with Matt. They kick the episode off by discussing Eric’s love of programming and what it was like to enter the workforce right after the dot-com bubble. Eric also tells the story behind the success of his book, Lean Startup, and talks about starting the Long-Term Stock Exchange.

Tune in for a thoughtful conversation about the realities of founding a company and what it takes to stay innovative and entrepreneurial as you scale.