What happened on the cross? NT Wright & Tom Schreiner. 500th podcast episode.
Nov 11, 2016
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NT Wright and Tom Schreiner discuss atonement theology, God's wrath, and penal substitution in relation to Jesus' crucifixion. They explore the deeper implications of the cross, theological dimensions of penal substitution, and Christ's accomplishment. The podcast delves into nuanced understandings of penal substitution, God's wrath and love, interpretation of Passover in the New Testament, and the meaning of Christ's death in 'The Day the Revolution Began'. Listener feedback, political reflections, and challenges in reconciling faith with politics are also covered.
The podcast reconsiders Jesus' crucifixion as a revolutionary event beyond sin absolution.
The atonement debate covers penal substitution, wrath of God, and kingdom vocation.
Interpretations of sacrificial atonement vary between penal substitution and purificatory themes.
Tom Wright emphasizes the complexity of Christ's sacrifice and rejects simplistic interpretations of 'dying for our sins'.
Deep dives
The Significance of God's Word in Daily Spiritual Journey
Reading God's Word is emphasized as a critical part of the believer's daily spiritual journey, aiding in immersing oneself in biblical truth. The podcast introduces a free PDF resource called The Word 1-1, guiding listeners through John chapter 1 with biblical text and commentary to enhance faith.
Celebrating the 500th Podcast Episode with Special Theological Debate
The 500th podcast episode marks a milestone in the program, offering a theological debate on the atonement. The discussion delves into the reinterpretation of Jesus' crucifixion as the beginning of a revolution rather than just the absolution of sins, inviting listeners into a broader understanding of the Christian faith.
Exploring Theological Perspectives on Atonement: Penal Substitution vs. Kingdom Vocation
The theological debate between the scholars revolves around penal substitution and the kingdom vocation perspective regarding atonement. While one scholar emphasizes the foundational aspect of penal substitution in entering the new creation, the other stresses the kingdom vocation and victory over the dark powers as central to understanding Jesus' sacrifice.
Interpreting Old Testament Sacrificial System: Substitutionary Atonement and Animal Sacrifices
Discussions around the Old Testament sacrificial system highlight the interpretation of substitutionary atonement and animal sacrifices. While one view sees the sacrificial system as rooted in penal substitution, a contrasting perspective emphasizes the purificatory nature of sacrifices and questions the direct link to penal substitution.
Reconciling Views on Sacrificial Atonement in Old Testament and New Testament Contexts
Differences in interpreting sacrificial atonement arise from contrasting views on the sacrificial system's purpose and implications. The conversation navigates between attributing substitutionary significance to blood sacrifice in the Old Testament and broader purificatory themes in the New Testament, exploring the theological nuances of sacrificial rituals.
Reflections on the Role of Sacrifice in Understanding the Atonement
The debate delves into the role of sacrifice in understanding atonement, considering diverging perspectives on the sacrificial rituals' significance. While one view emphasizes substitutionary interpretations in the sacrificial system, another perspective highlights purificatory elements, leading to a multifaceted exploration of sacrificial themes in Christian theology.
Interpreting Christ's Atonement
Tom Wright's new book 'The Day the Revolution Began' reconsiders the meaning of Jesus' crucifixion. Tom Shiner, a New Testament scholar, challenges Wright on his views of penal atonement, salvation, and eschatology. Wright emphasizes the importance of contextualizing the concept of Christ dying for our sins within the biblical narrative of God rescuing humanity. He emphasizes the depth and complexity of the term 'for our sins,' rejecting simplistic interpretations.
Christian Ethics and Political Dilemmas
The podcast delves into the ethical dilemmas faced by Christians in the US elections and the broader context of political engagement. Listeners grapple with the considerations of character and policy in voting decisions, especially in the contentious Trump vs. Clinton election. Different perspectives highlight the challenges of aligning political choices with Christian values, touching on issues like pro-life advocacy, abortion policies, and the role of faith in political leadership. The episode reflects the multifaceted debate surrounding Christian ethics and political participation.
CORRECTED AUDIO! NT (Tom) Wright's new book "The Day the Revolution Began: Reconsidering the meaning of Jesus' crucifixion" says that the cross was about much more than Jesus absolving us of sin.
He discusses atonement theology, God's wrath and penal substitution with reformed Bible scholar Thomas Schreiner. It's also the 500th podcast episode of the show!
