Dr. Louise Hecker, an Associate Professor at Baylor College of Medicine, discusses her groundbreaking research on aging and tissue repair. She explains how fibroblasts, crucial for healing, decline in function with age, leading to fibrotic diseases. The conversation dives into oxidative stress and the role of telomeres in cellular aging. Intriguingly, Hecker shares her findings on psilocybin's metabolite, psilocin, showing it can enhance cellular longevity and vitality in aged mice, suggesting a promising avenue for combating age-related decline.
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Fibroblast Plasticity Drives Repair
Fibroblasts are dormant, plastic reparative cells that activate to form scar tissue and then normally die or de-differentiate.
Aging impairs their de-differentiation/apoptosis, causing persistent scarring and fibrotic disease.
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Curiosity Sparked The Psilocybin Study
Louise Hecker started investigating psilocybin after a non-scientist friend raised questions and she reviewed peer-reviewed literature.
She noticed few studies yet intriguing durable clinical effects, prompting her aging-focused experiments.
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Oxidative Stress Accumulates With Age
Oxidative stress is a balance between oxidant production and antioxidant defenses that drifts toward damage with age.
Aging raises oxidative stress by increasing production and weakening antioxidant responses.
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Aging, tissue repair, and the longevity benefits of psilocin.
Episode Summary: Dr. Louise Hecker discusses her research on tissue repair and regeneration, explaining how fibroblasts drive wound healing by forming scar tissue but fail to resolve properly with age, leading to fibrotic diseases like pulmonary fibrosis and liver cirrhosis; they discuss aging hallmarks such as oxidative stress and telomere shortening, and highlight Hecker's study showing psilocybin's active metabolite, psilocin, extends cellular lifespan in lab cultures by reducing oxidants and preserving telomeres, while monthly doses in aged mice improved appearance and survival rates.
About the guest: Louise Hecker, PhD is an Associate Professor of Medicine at Baylor College of Medicine, specializing in repair and regeneration processes, particularly in aging and fibrotic diseases.
Discussion Points:
Fibroblasts are dormant cells that activate during injury to pull wounds closed and form scars, then de-differentiate or die; aging impairs this, causing persistent scarring and disease.
Aging reduces the body's regenerative capacity; different organs vary in repair efficiency, with skin healing better than heart tissue.
Oxidative stress, like "rust" in the body, accumulates with age due to imbalanced reactive oxygen species production and antioxidant defenses, contributing to cellular damage.
Telomeres act as protective DNA caps that shorten with cell divisions, serving as a hallmark of biological aging; sirtuins are master regulators influencing aging processes.
Hecker's in vitro study showed psilocin dose-dependently extended fibroblast lifespan by 29-50%, lowering oxidative stress below young cell levels and preserving telomeres.
In aged mice (equivalent to 60-65 human years), monthly high-dose psilocybin (15 mg/kg) led to healthier appearance, regrown fur, and 80% survival when controls reached 50% mortality after 10 months.
Psilocybin's effects may stem from serotonin receptors expressed in many cell types beyond the brain, suggesting broader anti-aging potential; future work explores mechanisms, optimal dosing, and applications for age-related diseases.
Fungi like magic mushrooms represent an under-explored "kingdom" for medicine, with psilocybin's durable effects hinting at systemic impacts on aging.
Reference Paper:
Study: Psilocybin treatment extends cellular lifespan and improves survival of aged mice
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