After a great conversation with surfing legend Jamie O'Brien, sports psychologist York-Peter Klöppel explains why Jamie's ability of becoming friends with your fear is the ultimate trick to achieving your goals. Listen to the episode to hear how exactly you can do this!   Do you have feedback or simply want to chat to us? Please reach out under mindsetwin@redbull.com or directly to Lisa on Instagram at @lisa_ramuschkat Do you want to read about the topics we talk about in this podcast?Read more here Mind Set Win: Discover the keys to a winning mindset (redbull.com). This season, you can watch us on Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@redbullmindsetwin