Steve Jobs. Anita Roddick. Yvon Chouinard. Mary Portas. There are many inspiring examples of business leaders who have changed the world through their work.

We admire their successes. Quote them in our presentations. Read about their morning routines. They make us want to make a difference too.

But making real change is easier said than done. On this episode of The Green Room, we speak to two industry titans reflecting on a career of making positive change.

Tune in to find out:

Whether they ever thought they’d get this far
The milestone moments that propelled them forwards
Why all good work starts with a good night’s sleep
Their advice for anyone looking to make change

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Guests: Alan Jope, CEO of Unilever and Sharon Thorne, Deloitte Global Board Chair

Hosts: George Parrett and Ethan Worth

Technical support: Deloitte Creative Studio

Original music: Ali Barrett

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