Dialogue: Orthodox Priest and Catholic Apologist Discuss the Papacy and Ecclesiology

Sep 23, 2023

Fr. Laurent Cleenewerck and Erick Ybarra dive deep into the papacy and ecclesiology, covering topics like historic agreements and disagreements, Roman primacy, early church conflicts, church governance, communion among churches, evolution of papal authority, and essence of church identity. They explore the roots of Catholic-Orthodox disagreements and offer insights into the complexities of the historical and theological differences.

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Introduction

00:00 • 6min

Roman Primacy in Historical Agreement

05:43 • 6min

Exploring Acceptance and Disagreement on the Papacy in Early Church History

11:44 • 3min

Exploring Roman Primacy in Church Governance

14:18 • 26min

The Divine Structure of the Church and Communion Among Churches

39:50 • 18min

Exploring the Evolution of Papal Authority and Infallibility in Church History

58:17 • 3min

Exploring the Essence of Church Identity

01:01:24 • 28min

Closing Remarks, Book Promotions, and Invitation to Support

01:29:01 • 2min

In this video, Orthodox priest, Fr. Laurent Cleenewerck, and Catholic Apologist, Erick Ybarra, discuss the papacy. However, this isn't your usual battle of proof texts. Instead, we dive deep into questions of ecclesiology which get to the root of the disagreement between Catholics and Orthodox. Throughout the course of the discussion, Fr. Laurent and Erick tackle questions like:
1. Did Catholics and Orthodox EVER agree on the papacy?
2. What does Roman primacy mean?
3. What can we learn from the Council of Serdica?
4. When does papal primacy turn into papal supremacy?
5. What's the nature of the Church?

Fr Laurent Cleenewerck is an Orthodox priest serving as rector of St Innocent Orthodox Church in Eureka, California, in the Orthodox Church in America diocese of the West. He is among other things a graduate of the St Sergius Institute in Paris and current teaches theology for the Ukrainian Catholic University and for Euclid University. He is the author of His Broken Body: Understanding and Healing the Schism between the Roman Catholic and Eastern Orthodox Churches, and the editor of the Eastern/Greek Orthodox New Testament.

You can find Fr. Laurent's book here: https://amzn.to/3sFWBNK

Erick Ybarra is a revert to the Catholic faith from Protestantism and has spent over a decade studying the doctrinal nature of divisions that exist within Christendom particularly between Catholics and Eastern Orthodox, as well as Protestantism. He is the author of the recent book, Melchizedek and the Last Supper. He is a speaker that has appeared on various social media outlets but is known most especially for his contribution as a co-host of YouTube’s Reason and Theology and his own channel, Classical Christian Thought. He is also a blogger at ErickYbarra.org.

You can find Erick's book at: https://amzn.to/3nYh6mL
You can find Erick online at: https://www.youtube.com/@UCoxp-YBmYzALO_egQ8bN6Bw

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