The Next Level 1027: Trump Starts the Dumbest International Incident… Ever?
Oct 25, 2025
The hosts dive into Trump's latest antics, examining the significance of the East Wing controversy. They debate whether focusing on symbolism distracts from real issues and discuss elites' fears of challenging Trump's authority. The conversation shifts to Trump's preference for authoritarian leaders, highlighting how it shapes international relations. Canada’s contentious ad triggers a trade row, revealing the geopolitical implications of Trump's tariff policies. The duo also critiques the media's struggle to adequately cover the extensive nature of Trump's corruption.
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Symbolic Acts Reveal Governing Will
- Jonathan V. Last argues undoing Trump's East Wing changes is an easy, symbolic test of willpower for future presidents.
- He says failing to reverse this small act predicts failure on harder institutional reforms.
Prioritize Substance Over Cosmetic Fights
- Sarah Longwell counsels leaders to prioritize substantive policy over cosmetic battles like the East Wing demolition.
- She advises focusing on affordability and major reforms that voters actually care about.
Prepare For Election Contests, But Act As If They’re Free
- Sarah advises treating free and fair elections as a fight but to proceed assuming they will occur.
- She recommends relying on state election laws and administrators who have resisted federal interference so far.