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Cosmos: The Linux of Blockchains?

Nov 12, 2025

In this discussion, Magnus, Co-CEO of Cosmos Labs, and Michael, also known as Cryptocito, a seasoned Cosmos investor, explore the evolution of the Cosmos ecosystem. They highlight a shift from grassroots enthusiasm to a focus on enterprise adoption, discussing strategic partnerships with Fortune 500 companies and CBDC initiatives. Magnus outlines innovations in the technical roadmap, including privacy features and app-chain flexibility, emphasizing the need for Cosmos to mature while maintaining its community spirit amid institutional engagement.

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Ecosystem Maturation Toward Institutions

Cosmos is intentionally shifting from a grassroots developer ecosystem to a polished, institution-friendly platform.
Magnus argues this maturation is necessary to attract businesses, finance, and governments into Cosmos.

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Doubling Down On App‑Chain Sovereignty

Cosmos doubles down on the app-chain sovereignty thesis rather than forcing a single shared‑L1 model.
Magnus believes leaning into sovereignty unlocks larger market opportunities like CBDCs and Fortune 500 chains.

ANECDOTE

Real Deals: CBDCs And Fortune 500s

Magnus recounts winning CBDC contracts in Latin America and near‑closing a project in Spain.
He says two Fortune 500 companies also agreed to build Cosmos chains, representing large market opportunity.

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Captured live at Cosmoverse 2025, this episode brings host Sebastian in conversation with Michael (better known as Cryptocito, Cosmos investor via Cito Ventures) and Magnus (@0xMagmar, Co-CEO Cosmos Labs).

Against a backdrop of institutional gravitas, central banks mingling alongside Revolut executives, the conversation traces Cosmos' arc across five Cosmoverses, from Medellín's raw developer fervor to the polished, enterprise-oriented event unfolding here. It's a marker of the ecosystem's maturation, one that demands Cosmos "grow up" to weave itself into the fabric of global finance, governance, and economies beyond its insular origins.
Magnus lays out Cosmos Labs' forward path: Systematically acquiring and refining homegrown innovations, such as the EVM rebuild over six months into a core stack component and consolidating privacy primitives from projects like Secret Network and Penumbra into seamless, enterprise-grade tools.

These advancements, long championed by Cosmos builders, now stand ready for institutional adoption. On quantum threats, enterprises show little concern for now, but the panel underscores blockchains' unique vulnerabilities: Unlike centralized systems, they require broad coordination for upgrades, where Bitcoin's inertia pales against Cosmos' app-chain flexibility, allowing isolated chain overhauls without dragging down the broader network, a resilience Ethereum lacks.

Topics covered in this episode:

0:00 Introduction & Cosmoverse Vibe Check
2:30 Reflections on Five Cosmoverses
6:45 Ecosystem Maturation: Grassroots to Institutional Focus
11:20 Cosmos Labs' Roadmap: Unifying Privacy & EVM Innovations
16:50 Building Cohesive Stack Features for Enterprises
22:15 Privacy Tools: Secret Network, Penumbra, and Nym
27:40 Quantum Computing Threats & Blockchain Vulnerabilities
33:10 Coordination Challenges: Hard Forks vs. App-Chain Modularity
38:25 Sovereign Day Argentina: CBDC & Gov Sovereignty Summit
43:50 Leadership Adaptation & Community Inclusion
49:20 Future Vision: Cosmos as Global Finance Enabler
54:00 Closing Thoughts & Event Shoutouts

Episode links:
- Michael (@Cryptocito) (https://x.com/Cryptocito )
- Magnus (@0xMagmar) (https://x.com/0xMagmar)
- Gnosis (https://gnosis.io/)
- Epicenter - All Episodes (https://epicenter.tv/)
- Cosmoverse 2025 (https://cosmoverse.org/)

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This episode is hosted by Sebastien Couture.

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