Before leading one of America’s foremost tech companies, Jayshree Ullal worked in both large companies and startups, as an engineer and executive. She and Rene chat about everything from Cisco’s acquisitions to programming with batch cards as young product engineers, as the two CEOs swap stories about their parallel paths to the C-suite.

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Tech Unheard is a custom podcast series from Arm and National Public Media. Executive Producers Erica Osher and Shannon Boerner. Project Manager Colin Harden. Creative Lead Producer Isabel Robertson. Editors Andrew Meriwether and Kelly Drake. Composer Aaron Levison. Arm production contributors include: Ami Badani (CMO), Claudia Brandon, Simon Jared (media), Jonathan Armstrong, Ben Webdell (creative), Sofia McKenzie (social), Kristen Ray (PR), and Saumil Shah (Chief of Staff to the CEO).

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