Today on The Conversation, Adam talks with NYC pastor and author Rich Villodas. Rich and Adam talk about humility —what it really means to be humble, what it practically looks like in your life, and 5 questions you can ask yourself to see where you’re at in that area. They also touch on the anger so many of us are feeling and the difficulties and tensions of living in community together. They Specifically for leaders, Rich shares how to lead when people have many different views and opinions and how to lead well when people disagree with you. Check out Adam’s first conversation with Rich: bit.ly/3p4yUJV Get a copy of Rich’s new book, Good and Beautiful and Kind: amzn.to/3p7KOmm Listen to Adam’s recent message on humility: bit.ly/3QroxLY