Jordan B Peterson Part One: Ascension

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Oct 16, 2023

The discussion kicks off with the transformation of Jordan B. Peterson from obscure academic to global celebrity. They explore his early life in Canada and pivotal moments that shaped his controversial views. Key topics include the impact of societal influences on human nature and the complex interplay of masculinity in modern discourse. The podcast also delves into Peterson's academic achievements and the ethical dilemmas intertwined with his philosophies. Expect a critique of self-help simplicity against rich artistic traditions and the societal implications of his educational vision.

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INSIGHT

Influence Despite Verbosity

Jordan Peterson became massively influential despite a strange, verbose style that defies expectations of concise public intellectuals.
Dorian Lynskey suggests his earnest intensity and length may be a key part of his appeal.

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Tension Between Success And Distress

Ian Dunt argues Peterson succeeds while evidently struggling with his own mental health and anxieties.
He says Peterson's life and text reveal a man clinging to meaning while offering little novel intellectual contribution.

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Early Rejection Of Religion

Peterson grew up in Fairview, Alberta, the eldest of three with a schoolteacher father and librarian mother.
He recounts rejecting religion at 12 and turning toward dreams of political utopia and personal power.

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The Complex Influence of a Public Intellectual

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Exploring the Darkness Within: Societal Influences on Human Nature

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Exploring Academic Achievements and Personal Milestones

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Artistry and Authenticity in Expression

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The Rise and Controversies of an Educational Visionary

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Exploring Binaries and Psychological Struggles

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Malcolm Gladwell

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How Jordan Peterson is Saving Western Civilization

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Beyond Order

12 More Rules For Life

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In this sequel to '12 Rules for Life', Jordan B. Peterson presents twelve additional rules to guide readers through the complexities of modern life. The book emphasizes the need to balance chaos and order, warning against the dangers of too much security and the tendency towards tyranny. Peterson draws on psychology, philosophy, theology, and mythology to provide strategies for finding meaning and purpose, even in times of powerlessness. Written during a period of personal and global turmoil, including health issues and the COVID-19 pandemic, the book offers a rich and deep exploration of how to navigate life's challenges.

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12 Rules for Life

An Antidote to Chaos

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In this book, Jordan B. Peterson offers twelve profound and practical rules for living a meaningful life. He argues that happiness is a fleeting and unpredictable goal, and instead, people should seek meaning as a defense against the suffering inherent in life. The book is divided into chapters, each representing one of the twelve rules, such as 'Stand up straight with your shoulders back,' 'Treat yourself like someone you are responsible for helping,' and 'Pursue what is meaningful (not what is expedient). ' Peterson draws on examples from his clinical practice, personal life, cutting-edge psychology, philosophy, and ancient myths to provide a guide for personal improvement and coping with adversity.

Origin Story is back. The critically-acclaimed podcast uncovering the hidden histories of concepts, people and events you thought you knew.

To kick off Series 4 Ian Dunt and Dorian Lynskey turn their sights on Jordan B Peterson, the bestselling author, diehard culture warrior and, allegedly, the most influential intellectual in the western world. In part one they discuss Peterson’s life up to the publication of 12 Rules for Life in 2018, from his childhood in rural Canada to his first book, Maps of Meaning, his role as a star professor at the University of Toronto and his first taste of public controversy.

How did an obscure academic come to the brink of global celebrity? Why did a young left-leaning activist grow into a ferocious conservative? And what ideas led him to his multi-million-dollar 12 rules? Featuring Nietzsche, Karl Jung, the absence of God and nightmares about the end of the world. Buckle up, bucko.

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Reading list:

Books:

Ben Burgis, Conrad Hamilton, Matthew McManus and Marion Trejo — Myth and Mayhem: A Leftist Critique of Jordan Peterson, 2020

Jordan B Peterson — Maps of Meaning: The Architecture of Belief, 1999

Jordan B Peterson — 12 Rules for Life: An Antidote to Chaos, 2018

Jordan B Peterson — Beyond Order: 12 More Rules for Life, 2021

Sandra Woien, ed. — Critical Responses to Jordan Peterson, 2022

Online:

Jason McBride — ‘The Pronoun Warrior’, Toronto Life, 2017

https://torontolife.com/city/u-t-professor-sparked-vicious-battle-gender-neutral-pronouns/

David Brooks — ‘The Jordan Peterson Moment’, The New York Times, 2018

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/25/opinion/jordan-peterson-moment.html

Dorian Lynskey — ‘How dangerous is Jordan Peterson, the rightwing professor who “hit a hornets’ nest”?’, The Guardian, 2018

https://www.theguardian.com/science/2018/feb/07/how-dangerous-is-jordan-b-peterson-the-rightwing-professor-who-hit-a-hornets-nest

Kelefa Sanneh — ‘Jordan Peterson’s Gospel of Masculinity’, The New Yorker, 2018

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2018/03/05/jordan-petersons-gospel-of-masculinity

Pankaj Mishra — ‘Jordan Peterson & Fascist Mysticism’, The New York Review of Books, 2018

https://www.nybooks.com/online/2018/03/19/jordan-peterson-and-fascist-mysticism/

Nellie Bowles — ‘Jordan Peterson, Custodian of the Patriarchy’, The New York Times, 2018

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/18/style/jordan-peterson-12-rules-for-life.html

Vinay Menon — ‘Jordan Peterson is trying to make sense of the world — including his own strange journey’, Toronto Star, 2018

https://web.archive.org/web/20191219104703/https://www.thestar.com/news/insight/2018/03/16/jordan-peterson-is-trying-to-make-sense-of-the-world-including-his-own-strange-journey.html

Bernard Schiff — ‘I was Jordan Peterson’s strongest supporter. Now I think he’s dangerous’, Toronto Star, 2018

https://web.archive.org/web/20200115120600/https:/www.thestar.com/opinion/2018/05/25/i-was-jordan-petersons-strongest-supporter-now-i-think-hes-dangerous.html

Johanna Thomas-Corr — ‘Jordan Peterson, Agent of Chaos’, The New Statesman, 2021

https://www.newstatesman.com/culture/books/2023/02/jordan-peterson-agent-chaos-psychology

James Marriott — ‘Beyond Order by Jordan Peterson review’, The Times, 2021

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/beyond-order-by-jordan-b-peterson-review-qnhtgs2zj

Helen Lewis — ‘What Happened to Jordan Peterson?’, The Atlantic, 2021

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2021/04/what-happened-to-jordan-peterson/618082/

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