Jerry Ratcliffe interviews Charis Kubrin, a professor at the University of California, Irvine, about her research on California Proposition 47. Proposition 47 is a law that reduces some non-violent, non-serious crimes to misdemeanors. Kubrin's research found that Proposition 47 had no significant impact on violent crime and may have had a small impact on motor vehicle theft and larceny. However, she emphasizes the need for further research and analysis to fully understand the effects of the law. Kubrin also discusses the controversy and criticism her research has received, particularly from law enforcement organizations and political opponents of criminal justice reform.