In this episode, Jon speaks with Michael Heap, Director of Developer Experience at Kong, a cloud connectivity company backed by the likes of Jeff Bezos (Amazon) and Eric Schmidt (Google). Michael is also the author of ‘Ansible: From Beginner to Pro’, a clear and concise guide on how to use Ansible, a simple way to automate apps and IT infrastructure. 

They discuss how your own failure can actually benefit you in the long run, how to align your work to the needs and wants of others, the misconceptions of DevRel Strategies, and how personability for a manager is absolutely key. They also delve into why a manager should always be introspective and the difference it can make for the team.

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mheap

Twitter: https://twitter.com/mheap?lang=en 

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