Two weeks ago, Tony and Amy started a conversation on some unexpected findings related to ministry leadership in growing and declining churches from The Unstuck Group's latest research. As promised, they are back with more to share. While the results may surprise you, remember that the information is based on numbers and not opinion—even if the truth is hard to swallow at times.

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• Leading an Unstuck Church Course
• The Unstuck Church Report: Benchmarks & Trends in U.S. Churches - Q2 2018