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Duolingo VP of Product on Hypergrowth through Freemium, Experimentation & Gamification | Cem Kansu | E257

Feb 26, 2025
Cem Kansu, the Vice President of Product at Duolingo, shares insights from his nine-year journey driving the company's growth. He discusses the balance of gamification and educational accessibility in Duolingo’s freemium model, highlighting how innovative features like voice AI enhance personalized learning. Cem also explores the evolution of the platform into new subjects like math and music, the impact of A/B testing on monetization strategies, and the significance of making language education both effective and enjoyable.
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ANECDOTE

Duolingo's Monetization Journey

  • Cem Kansu worked on monetization, including ads, in-app purchases, and subscriptions.
  • Initially, Duolingo's CEO stated they'd never use these methods, prioritizing free education.
INSIGHT

Democratizing Education

  • Duolingo's mission is to democratize education by making language learning accessible.
  • They offer the same learning experience for free and paid users, with only experiential differences.
INSIGHT

Learning vs. Entertainment

  • Duolingo prioritizes learning efficacy, ensuring users gain knowledge in their allotted time.
  • Engagement is crucial, competing with other apps by incorporating gamification.
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