Zane Lowe interviews Dan of Imagine Dragons and Rick Rubin. They discuss the emotional journey of creating their latest album, struggles with religion and acceptance, transformative experiences, the band's future, and reflections on band dynamic and musical influences.
Working with producer Rick Rubin helped Dan Reynolds of Imagine Dragons to be more honest and vulnerable in his songwriting, overcoming his fear of being open about his personal struggles.
Letting go and being fully present in the moment are key elements in the creative process, both in music and in personal relationships, according to Dan Reynolds and Rick Rubin.
Deep dives
The Journey of Imagine Dragons
Dan Reynolds discusses the evolution and challenges faced by Imagine Dragons throughout their career. He reveals the process of self-reflection and self-work that led to the creation of their album Mercury Act I. Reynolds shares how working with producer Rick Rubin pushed him to be more honest and vulnerable in his songwriting, overcoming his fear of being open about his personal struggles. The album's lyrics delve deep into themes of spirituality, honesty, and acceptance, reflecting a journey of self-discovery and growth.
The Power of Letting Go
Dan Reynolds and Rick Rubin explore the importance of letting go in the creative process. They highlight the role of trust and grace in making great music that goes beyond their individual efforts. Reynolds opens up about his ongoing struggle with control and how his partner and surrounding himself with conscious and present individuals help him in his journey of letting go. They discuss the significance of being fully present in the moment, both in the creative process and in personal relationships.
Band Dynamics and the Role of Therapy
Dan Reynolds and Rick Rubin candidly discuss the challenges of maintaining a successful band dynamic, particularly after years of fame and success. They emphasize the importance of open communication and band therapy sessions to address tensions and resolve conflicts. Reynolds shares that his fear of bands breaking up, which he experienced as a fan, motivated him to work on the band's relationship. Rick Rubin reflects on the complexities of band dynamics, recognizing the multiple relationships and tensions within a band.
The Spiritual Side of Music-Making
Rick Rubin and Dan Reynolds delve into the spiritual dimension of creating music. They both acknowledge the presence of an external force that contributes to the magic and success of a musical creation. Reynolds shares his personal journey of refining spirituality after a religious crisis and finding inspiration and guidance through honesty and authenticity. Rubin emphasizes that making music is a spiritual practice and highlights the importance of letting go, trusting the process, and recognizing that music transcends our individual efforts.