Christina Yagjian from Cargill discusses corporate clean energy procurement, comparing renewable energy certificates and power purchase agreements, emphasizing additionality and balancing emissions with costs. The conversation covers the role of storage in renewable energy sourcing and highlights the collaboration between companies for power purchase agreements. It also delves into the challenges of achieving operational emission reduction targets through renewable energy procurement.
Corporate clean power purchasing involves balancing cost and emissions priorities.
Renewable energy certificates and power purchase agreements play distinct roles in corporate clean energy procurement.
Deep dives
Diverse Background and Entry Into Climate Field
Christina Yajin, who leads Global Renewable Energy Strategy and Origination at a prominent company, Cargill, shares her journey starting in college where her eco-consciousness was nurtured. From internships in environmental organizing to advocating clean energy at nonprofits, she transitioned to advocacy on Capitol Hill. Subsequently, she delved into renewable energy projects at Pacific Gas and Electric, focusing on long-term power purchase agreements that shaped her expertise.
Challenges of Corporate Renewable Energy Procurement
Christina delineates the hurdles faced in corporate renewable energy procurement, highlighting the intricate negotiation processes that can span six to nine months. She navigates a complex landscape balancing affordability, carbon emission reduction, and circumventing market uncertainties for cost-effective and sustainable solutions. Examining global regional differences, she emphasizes the time-intensive nature of transitioning to clean energy sources.
Impact of Corporate Demand and Balancing Energy Sourcing
With the surge in data center energy needs, large tech corporations wield significant procurement leverage, securing clean energy commitments and influencing grid demand. In contrast, diverse operations at Cargill present a challenge in bespoke renewable energy solutions tailored to varied facilities worldwide. Christina underlines the pivotal role of power purchase agreements in driving sustainability goals amidst market fluctuations and evolving grid demands.
Fostering Sustainability in Global Operations
Christina outlines Cargill's proactive approach to sustainability with stringent science-based climate commitments. She describes the meticulous greenhouse gas accounting system adopted by Cargill to track emissions across its extensive global footprint. Acknowledging the dynamic energy landscape, she envisions software innovations streamlining contract management, fostering interconnection speed, and optimizing renewable energy forecasting for enhanced operational efficiency.
Christina Yagjian leads global renewable energy strategy and origination at Cargill. According to Forbes, Cargill is the largest private company in the USA by revenue with $177 billion in the fiscal year ending in May, 2023. Before Cargill, Christina managed the renewable energy footprint at Meta, the parent company to Facebook and Instagram and one of the world's largest corporate clean power purchasers.
Our topic today is all about clean power purchasing, why large companies have started buying power directly, how they prioritize their needs across factors like cost and emissions, and how they structure their agreements. This is one of the more complex topics in the climate space, combining carbon accounting with power grid economics and a whole lot of wonk. Cody and Christina keep the conversation accessible to folks who are just trying to understand the role of power consumption, emissions and large companies in the first place. Special thanks to Christina for balancing the need to help explain the overall landscape along with articulating some of Cargill's specific initiatives and focus areas.
In this episode, we cover:
[2:41] Christina's background and journey in renewables
[9:53] Reasons behind corporate power purchases
[11:19] The difference between renewable energy certificates (RECs) and power purchase agreements
[16:08] The role of additionality in power purchase agreements
[22:32] Balancing emissions footprints with the cost of power
[26:07] Role of storage in balancing intermittent renewable resources
[30:12] Challenges and barriers to clean power procurement, such as cost, timing, and market uncertainties
[33:24] Considerations in choosing power generators and negotiating PPAs
[36:51] An overview of virtual power purchase agreements
[43:29] Managing clean power procurement and the need for robust data systems
[45:52] Definition of success in clean power procurement for Cargill
Recorded May 15, 2024 (Published June 3, 2024)
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