Peter Wehner, political commentator and author, joins Charlie Sykes for a deep dive on Mike Johnson and his belief in consulting the Bible for truth. They explore the toxic nature of politics, the shift towards postmodernism in conservatism, and Republicans' embrace of nihilism. They discuss the fears and concerns of the right, the deep investment in narratives, and threats to the republic. An insightful conversation on the state of American politics.
The new speaker of the House, Mike Johnson, holds conservative views rooted in his religious beliefs, including a literal reading of the Bible and a young earth theory.
Trump supporters often rationalize his actions as a response to perceived threats from the left, allowing them to maintain support for him despite contradictory information.
Deep dives
Mike Johnson: The Zealotry and Beliefs
This segment of the podcast episode explores the beliefs and zealous nature of Mike Johnson, the new speaker. Johnson advocates for a literal reading of the Bible and believes in a young earth theory, where the world is only 6,000 years old. He is associated with organizations such as Answers in Genesis, which promotes these ideas. Johnson also holds conservative views on topics such as the politicization of churches, criminalization of gay sex, and abortion. His worldview is deeply rooted in his religious beliefs and he is committed to his ideologies.
Dealing with Cognitive Dissonance
The podcast discusses how individuals who support Trump and the MAGA movement navigate cognitive dissonance when confronted with contradictory information. They tend to downplay or rationalize Trump's actions, often justifying them as a response to the perceived threat from the progressive left. This allows them to maintain their support for Trump and view him as a champion against the opposition. Rationalizations and narratives are created to align with their beliefs and dismiss any evidence that contradicts their view.
The Rise of Postmodern Politics
The podcast highlights the shift towards postmodern politics on the right, where truth and evidence are dismissed in favor of narrative and power. This ideology is seen as a reaction to the perceived threat from the left and has gained traction among many conservatives. The focus is on winning and the belief that the ends justify the means. This has led to a disregard for moral norms and a willingness to embrace conspiracy theories and misinformation if it serves their agenda.
The Danger of Trump's Influence
The podcast acknowledges the dangerous influence of Trump on American politics and the erosion of liberal values. Trump's rhetoric has dehumanized his opponents, creating a toxic environment where truth and facts are dismissed. His supporters are galvanized by his cruelty and vindictiveness, viewing it as a strength rather than a character flaw. The moral rot that has accompanied Trump's rise has had a profound impact on political discourse and threatens the stability of democratic institutions.
We may have averted a government shutdown for the moment, but the new speaker of the House believes dinosaurs were on Noah's Ark. Pete Wehner joins Charlie Sykes for a deep dive on Mike Johnson. Plus, the closing of the American mind on the right.