In this episode Toby sits down with singer/songwriter/musician Aaron Bruno! They chat California, music and culture, hip hop, going from sports to surfing, starting guitar young, ADD, Insurgence inspired by 90’s hardcore, straight edge, classic frontmen, his song "Sail" blowing up, the weight of his lyrics on listeners, Jewel, making the covers record to deal with the pandemic, losing his studio in the California fire, record labels, AWOLNATION, The Barbarians Of California, upcoming new records, the upgrade to a tour bus, intermittent fasting, how he met his wife, finding positivity in things, sobriety, therapy, coming full circle, hip hop.

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