The Ben Shapiro Show Ep. 2348 - What I Learned From Sitting With Gavin Newsom
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Jan 16, 2026 A deep dive into Gavin Newsom's potential as the Democratic leader for 2028 reveals his self-proclaimed moderate stance vs. California's challenging realities. Discussions also tackle controversial issues like ICE's role and the constraints around housing promises. Newsom’s responses on sensitive topics like Iran and Ukraine signal a strategic political positioning, while debates over trans policies showcase his hesitation. As Newsom distances himself from radical calls within his party, the looming questions about his electability hang heavily in the air.
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Rejecting 'Genocide' Claims
- Newsom rejects labeling Israel's actions in Gaza as genocide and seeks a nuanced legal standard rather than sweeping accusations.
- Shapiro highlights Newsom's reluctance to directly condemn Democrats promoting the genocide claim.
Evasive Stance On Trans Questions
- Newsom avoids giving a definitive answer on whether boys can become girls, seeking nuance and grace instead.
- Shapiro sees this as dodging a biologically rooted question to avoid alienating voters.
Anti-Trump As Core Campaign Theme
- Newsom centers his presidential appeal on positioning as an anti-Trump and warning elections could be stolen.
- Shapiro questions the sincerity of believing elections are at risk while still running for office.
