The Herd with Colin Cowherd

Hoops Tonight - NBA Player Rankings #14-13: Joel Embiid & Kawhi Leonard | Hoops Tonight

Aug 12, 2025
The discussion kicks off with a deep dive into the latest NBA player rankings, highlighting the impact of injury concerns on superstars. Joel Embiid's skills and contributions are evaluated alongside Kawhi Leonard's, emphasizing the balance of talent and health. The conversation shifts to the significance of their performances for the competitive Eastern Conference and the upcoming season. Additionally, the podcast reflects on fluctuating player legacies and public perceptions, setting the stage for future rankings and insights.
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INSIGHT

How Jason Defines Superstar Tiers

  • Jason Timpf separates tiers by consistency and playoff dependability.
  • The top four consistently reach peak level night-to-night, others have ceiling but lack consistency.
INSIGHT

Embiid's Injury-Riddled 2023-24

  • Joel Embiid played only 19 games and never looked like his MVP self.
  • Jason Timpf ranks him 14 due to durability risk despite elite upside.
ANECDOTE

Trainer Drew Hanlon's Public Criticism

  • Jason Timpf recalls Joel's trainer Drew Hanlon publicly criticizing his prior ranking.
  • He uses this to show how polarizing Embiid's placement can be.
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