5LQ Episode 303: Robby Gallaty and Chris Swain

In this episode of the 5 Leadership Questions podcast, Todd Adkins and Daniel Im are joined by Robby Gallaty and Chris Swain, co-hosts of the Making Disciples podcast. During their conversation, they discuss how to make disciples of the people in your church and the need for planning in all aspects of life. BEST QUOTES “The day you stop learning is the day you stop leading, so we have to be self-motivated in this." "The Church went from being a movement of people to being a monument you go to." "The pastor leader has to repent for not making disciples for years." "Most churches think they can grow and grow their people by just offering another option to the already programized church they already pastor." "Disciples don't grow by menus, they grow by maps." "How many people are you investing in who have now reproduced their life into the life of another person?" "The discipleship process is never complete until the mentee becomes a mentor or until the player becomes a coach." "The gospel came to you because it was heading to someone else." "You have to have an outlet for recovery." "The reason people don't stick with long term discipling relationships is because there is no accountability and there is no intentionality." "Nothing you do in ministry is wasted." "God uses our suffering as a platform to preach the gospel." RECOMMENDED RESOURCES Lifeway Leadership Podcast Network Making Disciples Podcast Long Hollow Replicate Books by Robby Gallaty The Coddling of the American Mind by Greg Lukianoff and Jonathan Haidt The Patient Ferment of the Early Church by Alan Kreider Disappearing Church by Mark Sayers Letters to the Church by Francis Chan That Sounds Fun Podcast Episode 82: Christine Caine EST.church podcast This Episode's Sponsor: What happens when the Bible and humanity collide? Not what you’d expect. Living & Effective, a podcast collaboration between Christianity Today and the Christian Standard Bible, journeys through history, current events, theology, and the human condition to uncover surprising ways the Bible accomplishes God’s plan in the world."