After a couple of weeks off, Simon and David return for an hour long special. They review the recent Security and Risk Management event in Washington DC hosted by Forrester where the topic of identity and cyber convergence appeared. They comment on the recent Okta breach and what that means for the world of complex software supply chain attacks and the rise of identity security, ITDR and identit security posture management. They also review the London version of the Ping Identity Youniverse series of events.