

Downstream: Trump & Musk Could Start a Global Meltdown w/ Michael Lewis
15 snips Jul 14, 2025
Michael Lewis, acclaimed author of The Big Short, joins Aaron Bastani to unpack the complexities of American bureaucracy and political rhetoric. He challenges the stereotype of government workers, highlighting their dedication contrary to perceptions fueled by figures like Trump. The discussion dives into the potential continuation of Trumpism, Obama's political legacy, and looming crises in the U.S. economy. Lewis also sheds light on public anger and how it shapes discourse, especially surrounding immigration and social issues, painting a nuanced picture of modern America.
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Christopher Mark's Unique Journey
- Michael Lewis discovered Christopher Mark, a former coal miner who solved the problem of lethal roof collapses in mines.
- Mark reconnected professionally and emotionally with his father through their expertise in structural engineering and preservation.
Truth About Government Workers
- The stereotype of government workers as inefficient is false; many are passionate experts serving the public well.
- Negative media focus on government fosters underinvestment, creating a vicious cycle of dysfunction and cynicism.
Financial Crisis as Biggest Risk
- The U.S. government faces a looming crisis of financial insolvency affecting global trust.
- Degradation of risk management institutions worsens the handling of risks like pandemics, inflaming societal tensions.