Kat Abughazaleh’s job at Media Matters For America, as she puts it in her Twitter bio, is to watch Tucker Carlson so we don’t have to. Greg Olear talks to her about MMFA’s mission, how she found herself watching many hours of primetime Fox News, what makes good content for the network, how Fox News coverage has changed since J6, all things Tucker Carlson, and Mike Huckabee’s Christofascist children’s books. Plus: a new song about a bad guy.

Follow Kat on Twitter:

https://twitter.com/abughazalehkat

On TikTok:

https://www.tiktok.com/@katmabu

On YouTube:

https://www.youtube.com/@katmabu

Support Media Matters:

https://action.mediamatters.org/secure/donate

Sponsored by BetterHelp. Get 10% off your first month at betterhelp.com/greg

Subscribe to The Five 8:

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC0BRnRwe7yDZXIaF-QZfvhA

Check out ROUGH BEAST, Greg’s new book:

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0D47CMX17

ROUGH BEAST is now available as an audiobook:

https://www.audible.com/pd/Rough-Beast-Audiobook/B0D8K41S3T

Would you like to tell us more about you? 
http://survey.podtrac.com/start-survey.aspx?pubid=BffJOlI7qQcF&ver=short