“We have to understand what we’re dealing with” On Necrocapitalism with Alyson Escalante, J. Moufawad Paul, and Devin Zane Shaw

Dec 27, 2021

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J. Moufawad Paul

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Devin Zane Shaw

Guest

Alyson Escalante

Alyson Escalante, J. Moufawad Paul, and Devin Zane Shaw discuss pacification and capture in response to the rebellions of 2020, unequal exchange, the climate crisis, settler colonialism, and the nuances of racial regimes in the US and Canada. They also touch on liberal pacification, declining ranks in movement work, the dangers of state support for settler vigilantism, and the re-emergence of proletarian patriotism. The podcast explores the impact of the uprisings on American politics, responsibilities within the global capitalist system, and the preservation of radical movement texts.

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Introduction

00:00 • 2min

The Ideological Wars and Pacification in the 2020 Uprisings

02:05 • 10min

The Impact of the Uprising on American Politics

12:01 • 21min

Responsibility in the Global Capitalist System

32:39 • 11min

Indigenous Scholars and Settler Colonialism

43:42 • 4min

Understanding the Fluctuating Coalitions and Forces at Play

47:56 • 17min

Curse Blubadev: Preserving Radical Movement Texts

01:05:01 • 4min

Reflections on the Value of a Book

01:08:36 • 5min

This is part two of our two part episode with three of the contributors to On Necrocapitalism: A Plague Journal, which is available from Kersplebedeb and you can find that at leftwingbooks.net.

On Necrocapitalism was collectively authored by a writing group known as M.I. Asma which included J. Moufawad-Paul, Devin Zane Shaw, Mateo Andante, Johannah May Black, Alyson Escalante, and D.W. Fairlane.

In this conversation we speak with Alyson Escalante, J. Moufawad Paul and Devin Zane Shaw.

In part two we continue our discussion of pacification and capture in response the historic rebellions of 2020 and the related crisis in the ruling class. We also get into some discussion of unequal exchange, the ongoing climate crisis, and settler colonialism as a material relation of capitalism in the US & Canada, rather than just as a moral wrong. Along the way we get into some of the nuanced differences in the racial regimes in the US and Canada. We talk about some events since the Biden election, from liberal pacification, to the declining ranks in movement work, and the ongoing danger posed state support for settler vigilantism among the far right. And we ask the authors if they predicted the weird re-emergence of so-called proletarian patriotism in the imperial core.

As we wrap up the end of the year at Millennials Are Killing Capitalism, we just wanted to note that we’ve put out 48 episodes this year. That’s 4 episodes each month. We read all the books, do the research, develop the questions, record, edit and release these ourselves with no ad revenue, no pay per click revenue and no sponsorships, just the support of the many great folks who donate to our patreon. And we’re approaching 300,000 downloads for this year alone. So please if you’re able to contribute even a small amount to our patreon, it helps us make this show possible and ensures that all our content stays free, even for the folks who can’t afford to give anything.

Link to Part 1 (and links to more work from Alyson Escalante, J. Moufawad Paul and Devin Z. Shaw)