Stacie Goddard and Michael Mazarr on the United States and the Rules-Based Order

In this episode of Lowy Institute Conversations, Lowy Institute Director of Australia’s Security and the Rules-Based Order project, Ben Scott, sits down with Stacie Goddard, Mildred Lane Kemper Professor of Political Science and Faculty Director of the Madeleine Korbel Albright Institute for Global Affairs at Wellesley College, and Michael Mazarr, Senior Political Scientist at RAND Corporation, to discuss the United States and the Rules-Based Order.

View this interactive debate between six experts on America's approach to the rules-based order: https://interactives.lowyinstitute.org/features/usa-rules-based-order/

Conversations is a Lowy Institute podcast in which Institute researchers and some of the world's leading experts delve into the big issues in international affairs.

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