
The Remnant with Jonah Goldberg You Know That I Know | Interview: Steven Pinker
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Sep 24, 2025 Renowned cognitive psychologist Steven Pinker, author and Johnstone Professor at Harvard, dives into the intriguing world of common knowledge. He explains its essential role in societal coordination, using examples like traffic lights and market transactions. The conversation touches on how social trust differs across cultures and the impact of the internet on accountability. Pinker also addresses the importance of language in shaping our understanding of psychology, while defending free expression against misconceptions of violence.
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The 'I Love You' Matzo Ball
- Pinker uses a Seinfeld example where saying 'I love you' without reciprocation creates social awkwardness.
- He calls that exposed asymmetry a 'big matzo ball hanging out there' to illustrate common-knowledge effects.
Sponsor Read During The Interview
- Pinker used a Shopify ad read to illustrate sponsorship interruptions during interviews.
- The brief exchange shows how live discussions interleave promotion and content on book tours.
Why Modern Norms Erode
- Unnatural modern norms must be explicitly defended or they will erode because humans naturally slide back to tribal modes.
- Common knowledge sustaining institutions can unravel quickly if people stop assuming they exist.













