Clemson is about to play in its fourth CFP National Championship game in five years. But, historically, the Tigers have not been a top program. And in many ways, the deck is stacked against them. The Athletic’s Stewart Mandel joins us to talk about how Clemson has overcome the odds to become a dynasty-in-the-making -- and why they’re about to get even stronger.

Read Stewart Mandel's story about Clemson:

https://theathletic.com/1520803/2020/01/09/mandel-figuring-out-the-mystery-of-little-ol-clemson/?source=theleadpodcast

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How "Lil' Ol' Clemson" is Building a Big Ol' Empire