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Ep 564: Dr. Ben Goertzel: The Road to Creating Benevolent Decentralized AGI

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Jul 10, 2025
Dr. Ben Goertzel, CEO of SingularityNet and a pioneering voice in AI, discusses the urgent need for decentralized control of artificial general intelligence (AGI). He warns that allowing Big Tech and military control over AGI could destabilize the world. The conversation dives into the ethical implications of AGI, the potential for societal inequality, and the importance of inclusive participation in its development. Listeners learn how their actions today can steer AI toward a beneficial future, rather than a chaotic one.
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INSIGHT

AI Mirrors Society's Complexity

  • The emergence of advanced AI reflects the chaotic complexity of human society itself.
  • Using AI primarily for broad human benefit sets better initial conditions for a positive future.
ANECDOTE

Pioneer of Decentralized AI Vision

  • Ben Goertzel started coding AI in the 1980s inspired by early AI concepts from his childhood.
  • He envisioned decentralized AI emerging from internet protocols well before the computational resources existed.
INSIGHT

Understanding AGI's Vagueness

  • AGI is a vague, graded concept akin to intelligence or beauty, with no clear dividing line.
  • Human-level AGI is defined as generalizing imaginative leaps roughly as well as humans do, a critical but arbitrary threshold.
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