In this podcast, Kunal Sinha, the Global Head of Recycling at Glencore, discusses the company's role in the energy transition and climate change. They delve into Glencore's mining and metals activities, including the extraction of key metals needed for an electrified future. They also highlight the importance of natural resource circularity and responsible production. Topics covered include sulfuric acid applications, recycled plastics and metals, copper production, recycling battery metals for EVs, and evolving labor practices in the industry.
Glencore, a global natural resources company, plays a substantial role in the energy transition by being involved in mining and processing metals essential for an electrified future.
Glencore is focused on recycling EV batteries to accelerate the recycling process while maintaining a balance with primary production of metals.
Collaboration and maintaining environmentally responsible metal processing practices are crucial in ensuring efficient production and meeting the demands of the energy transition.
Deep dives
Glencore's Role in the Energy Transition
Glencore, a global natural resources company, plays a substantial role in the energy transition and climate change. While a significant portion of Glencore's revenue comes from coal and oil and gas, they are also involved in mining and processing metals essential for an electrified future. Kunal Sinha, Global Head of Recycling at Glencore, discusses the importance of Glencore's mining and metals activities and their initiatives around circularity and reuse. Glencore aims to be a lifetime custodian of the metals they produce, combining primary production with recycling to promote resource circularity.
Recycling at Glencore: From E-Waste to EV Batteries
Glencore has a long-standing recycling business and has been extracting copper and precious metals from end-of-life electronics since the 1940s. They have also been recycling battery metals like nickel and cobalt from the 1990s. With the rise of the electric vehicle industry, Glencore is focused on recycling EV batteries and addressing the challenges that come with it, such as handling large-format batteries, developing new technologies, and collaborating with startups and OEMs. They aim to accelerate the recycling of EV batteries while maintaining a balance with the primary production of metals.
The Future of Glencore's Recycling Business
Glencore's recycling business encompasses various resource streams, including end-of-life electronics, automotive recycling, and potentially solar panels. While they continue to focus on manufacturing scrap and electronic recycling, the growth driver for their future business is expected to be EV battery recycling. They are actively involved in developing circular business models, curating partnerships and collaborations with OEMs, gigafactories, policymakers, and other stakeholders in Europe and North America. Glencore is preparing for the exponential growth in EV battery recycling, while also exploring opportunities in other markets, such as solar panel and automotive recycling.
Importance of Collaboration and Technical Expertise in Metal Processing
Collaboration and technical expertise are crucial in the process of metal processing. In order to ensure efficient production and meet environmental standards, it is necessary to work closely with partners and collaborators in the industry. One key aspect is finding the right balance between virgin metal and recycled material in the processing to achieve cost parity. This requires a deep understanding of metallurgy and chemistry, as well as compliance with regulations and permits. The role of environmental responsibility is also significant, with a focus on processing at the highest environmental standards possible. Collaboration with supply chains and exploration of innovative ideas, such as recycled metal credits, further enhances the overall process of metal processing.
Copper Production and Recycling for Sustainable Supply
Copper production plays a crucial role in meeting the growing demands of the energy transition. With a projected need for 1000 million tons of copper by 2050, the challenge lies in increasing the copper supply. Currently, the refined consumption market is primarily driven by virgin metal, with a small portion being sourced from recycling. The primary mining process involves extracting copper ore, concentrating it, and then sending it to a smelter for refining. Recycling, on the other hand, involves collecting end-of-life electronics and dismantling them to obtain nonferrous metals like copper. Recycling efforts are focused on creating blends of primary and recycled feed to increase the amount of recycled copper in the supply chain. The development of digital passports and standards for responsible sourcing are crucial in ensuring ethical and sustainable supply chains for these metals.
Kunal Sinha is the Global Head of Recycling at Glencore. Glencore ranked number 21 on the Fortune Global 500 in 2023. As one of the world's largest commodities trader and one of the world's largest natural resource companies, they have a very substantial role in the energy transition and in climate change. Over one-third of Glencore's 2022 revenue came from coal, so from a climate perspective, the company has a substantial impact. Today, they also have a significant oil and gas business.
In Cody’s conversation with Kunal, we touched a bit on that, but we focus mostly on Glencore's mining and metals activities. This piece is part of what makes Glencore unique from most energy companies when it comes to the energy transition. Yes, it's in the business of fossil fuels, but it's also deeply in the business of extracting and processing a majority of key metals that will help us transition to an electrified future.
In his role as Global Head of Recycling, Kunal not only works to understand how Glencore's primary mining business operates but also is driving its initiatives around circularity and reuse. Mining has a reputation as a dirty business, and Glencore has had its share of environmental issues and controversies in the past. We appreciate Kunal for not shying away from these challenges and also helping us understand the important role that mining and Glencore have to play in the future and the importance of natural resource circularity as part of it.
In this episode, we cover:
[3:02] Kunal's background and experience
[7:43] His work with sulfuric acid at Glencore
[13:54] An overview of Glencore and its recycling business
[25:03] Glencore's collaboration and partnership with startups
[29:49] An overview of Glencore's copper production and recycling
[37:26] An overview of Glencore's process for cobalt
[42:27] Kunal's predictions for recycled battery metals in EVs
[52:27] An overview of battery passports and Glencore's commitment to high ethical social governance standards
[1:01:13] Call for startups and mature companies to collaborate with Glencore in driving circularity
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Episode recorded on Sept 27, 2023 (Published on Nov 13, 2023)
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