（本期节目为全英文访谈）
熟悉Agile开发的程序员或是产品人，都知道行业里有一个鼎鼎有名的项目管理软件Jira，由澳洲公司Altlassian开发。本期节目的嘉宾Michel Ferreira，就是这家全球知名IT软件公司的设计经理。
Michel来自巴西，母语是葡萄牙语，作为基本靠自学的设计师，他在工作多年后，离开巴西，在美国找到了工作。然后先后去了加拿大的Shopify，荷兰的Booking.com，最后来到了悉尼的Altlassian，并且还带着自己的妻子和两个孩子一起。当我听到他的故事时，我最大的一个问题是：他是怎么做到的？
带着这个问题，随着这期节目的深入，我发现了他除了设计师之外，还有着四个身份：学习者、讲述者、简化者、老师。正是这几个身份，帮助他走到了今天的职业。听完这期节目，一定会对你的职业生涯有启发。
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About the guest
Michel Ferreira is a Brazilian designer living in Sydney, Australia where he works full-time as a Design Manager at Atlassian, building the future of world-class Enterprise products like Jira. Previously worked at Shopify in Canada and Booking.com (http://booking.com/) in the Netherlands. Michel is also the host of LatinXs Who Design podcast.
As a writer and public speaker, Michel has delivered numerous presentations to audiences around the world to introduce new design ideas and examine best practices in A/B testing. He's also written articles for Net Magazine and company blogs such as: Would you like fries with that? For Booking.com (http://booking.com/) and 11 Lessons from the NBA Bubble for your newly remote team for Atlassian.
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