Chinese medicine. Traditional witch doctors. Oriental shamans. What exactly are they doing. With what, or whom, are the communing? Dr. James Mohebali, Chinese medicine practioner, talks with John to illumine the non-rational parts of our reality.

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Conversations: Shamans, Magic, and Rationalism with Dr. James Mohebali | WAWTAR #160