

S1EP60 – Dev Sits Down With The Welsh Wizard
Jul 28, 2021
Delve into the intriguing negotiations between Eamon De Valera and David Lloyd George at 10 Downing Street. Discover the contrasting visions of Irish leaders as they grapple with the quest for independence. The episode highlights the tensions faced and the strategies employed in the fight for dominion status. With a humorous twist on modern-day life, important historical intricacies come to light, making for an enlightening and entertaining discussion.
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Irish Freedom Goals
- The Irish desired freedom after the truce, but their goals varied.
- Some wanted a dual monarchy, others a republic, and some even more radical change.
De Valera and Lloyd George's Meeting
- De Valera visited London to negotiate with Lloyd George, meeting alone despite Collins's frustration.
- Lloyd George tried impressing De Valera with a map of the British Empire, highlighting Ireland's small size.
Lloyd George's Tactic
- Lloyd George cleverly tricked De Valera into admitting the Irish sought a republic.
- De Valera unintentionally defined their government as a "free state," giving Lloyd George leverage.