Krispin explains addictive behaviors from an attachment perspective and asks whether Christianity offers any concrete help when we’re stuck in behaviors we want to stop. He talks with Heather Patton Griffin about how many churches approach growth and transformation, “try harder to mean it more,” and what often gets missed.

We keep talking about This From My Lips by Yours My Sin is Purged by As Cities Burn

You can follow Heather Patton Griffin on twitter - she has so many great twitter threads on these topics!

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But Is It Changing a Wretch Like Me? Pt 2