The Sunday Show

About that Signal Chat

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Mar 27, 2025
Ryan Goodman, a legal scholar at NYU and former special counsel in the Defense Department, joins Cooper Quintin, a tech expert at the EFF, to dissect the SignalGate controversy. They explore the implications of a leaked military chat involving top officials and a reporter. The discussion highlights user errors in secure messaging, the potential legal ramifications, and a comparison with past national security scandals. They also address the unsettling use of language and emojis in military communications, revealing deeper issues behind the trivialization of serious matters.
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ANECDOTE

The Deutsch Precedent

  • The case of John Deutsch, former CIA head, illustrates mishandling classified information.
  • He used a personal computer for classified data, leading to investigation and a plea deal, ultimately pardoned.
INSIGHT

Signal's Security Limits

  • Signal's encryption is strong, but user error can't be fixed technologically.
  • Vetting group chat members is crucial for security.
ADVICE

Endpoint Security

  • Encrypting messages protects them in transit but not on your device.
  • Malware, physical access, and other vulnerabilities still exist.
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