The Last Word with Lawrence O’Donnell Lawrence on Trump DOJ failing to release all Epstein files: Trump can pardon anyone in a cover-up
Dec 23, 2025
Jena-Lisa Jones and Marina Lacerda, both survivors of Jeffrey Epstein, candidly share their traumatic experiences and the urgent need for transparency in the released files. Lawyer Bradley Edwards discusses the significant gaps in these disclosures and the implications of DOJ handling. The guests express their emotional reactions to the initial documents and the risk of unredacted names harming survivors. A passionate conversation unfolds about the potential for future accountability, including the chilling possibility of pardons.
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Presidential Immunity Creates Cover-Up Risks
- The Supreme Court granted presidents near-total immunity, creating a cover-up incentive for allies of a sitting president.
- Lawrence O'Donnell argues this unique immunity lets Donald Trump pardon collaborators and shield DOJ actors from prosecution.
Trump's Conflicting Epstein Statements
- Donald Trump recounts leaving a party and saying he would never be in the room with Jeffrey Epstein again.
- Lawrence O'Donnell contrasts that with Trump's earlier 2002 praise calling Epstein a "terrific guy."
Survivors Recall Being 14 At Parties
- The New York Times reporting alleges Trump hosted parties where very young girls were present and received champagne.
- Jena-Lisa Jones and others describe being 14 when recruited to Epstein's environments in Palm Beach and New York.