

The Truth About Climate Change, Climate Realism and Climate Alarmism, with Bjorn Lomborg and David Wallace-Wells | Ep. 239
Jan 12, 2022
Bjorn Lomborg, Danish author and climate realist, and David Wallace-Wells, American journalist and climate alarmist, engage in a spirited debate on climate change. They discuss the fine line between alarmism and realism, weighing the best and worst case scenarios for our future. Key topics include America's versus China's impacts, celebrity hypocrisy in climate action, and the importance of innovation. They dissect the connection between climate change and severe weather events, advocating for balanced policies while acknowledging the need for adaptation and resilience.
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Agreement on Climate Change
- There is a consensus that the earth is warming, and human activity is the primary cause.
- This agreement marks a shift from earlier debates about the reality of climate change.
Climate Change: A Problem, Not the End
- Bjorn Lomborg agrees on the warming trend but emphasizes the importance of proportion.
- He argues climate change is a problem but not an existential threat, unlike portrayals by some politicians.
Mass Extinction Parallels
- David Wallace-Wells highlights past mass extinctions linked to temperature changes, suggesting we are in a similar event.
- He emphasizes the rapid pace of current climate change compared to previous extinctions, posing a threat to ecosystems.