In a special episode of The CMO Podcast, we are joined by two former Procter & Gamble leaders, Chip Bergh and Janet Reid.

Janet Reid was the first black woman with a PhD that P&G hired. She began her career at P&G in R&D later transferring to marketing. Currently, Janet is the CEO of BRBS World LLC, a private management consulting consortium.

Chip Bergh spent 28 years at P&G with his last role as Group President for Global Male Grooming, overlooking the Gillette and Old Spice franchises. Today, he is the president and chief executive officer of Levi Strauss & Company, a nearly $6 billion apparel enterprise and also is the non-executive chairman of the board at HP Inc.

On today’s episode, the conversation will focus on leadership and gratitude. Jim, Chip and Janet will discuss the impact of P&G’s former Chairman and CEO, John Smale. John Smale is widely seen as one of the greatest CEOs in P&G’s history and a new book about Smale, ‘Here Forever: The Timeless Impact of John Smale on Procter & Gamble, General Motors and the Purpose and Practice of Business’ was released in October.

Listen as the trio share their favorite memories of John, lessons they learned from such an influential leader and the way John Smale pioneered diversity, equity and inclusion in the 80s.

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